This chapter is a transcript of Jamie’s podcast, Transgressions, episode 705, in which Jamie interviews Shay. Shay tells Jamie about meeting Don Rockwell, Rachel’s father. Rachel invited Laurel, Clem, and Shay to March on the Park, a restaurant overlooking Central Park in New York City. Don was a large man, but sophisticated, and Shay was initially attracted to him because he was her friend’s father, making the attraction inappropriate. Don ordered everything off the menu, providing vegan options for Clem and multiple wines. He said the progressive ideology taught at Whitney was insufficient because it taught women to be like men to succeed, when it should be teaching them how to embrace their femininity. The girls all agreed, and they commented on how insightful Don was, despite being a man. Afterward, Shay became obsessed with Don, daydreaming about him and masturbating frequently.

Don invited the group out for drinks, and, though Clem thought it odd for their friend’s father to ask them out again, Shay and Laurel were excited to see him. At the bar, Don asked about their families. Laurel told him about her father’s death, Clem told him about how her parents didn’t understand her, and Shay told him things she had only ever told her friends.